PalmOne Tungsten C Handheld

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PalmOne Tungsten C Handheld

  • Bright 320×320 transflective color screen
  • Fast, 400 MHz Intel PXA255 processor with Intel XScale technology
  • Built-in Wi-Fi and keyboard
  • Secure Digital/MultiMediaCard Expansion Slot
  • What’s in the box: Tungsten C Handheld, Stylus, Flip Cover, USB HotSync Cradle, Power Supply, Desktop Installation CD, Software Essentials CD

For the ultimate in performance, Palm delivers its most powerful and robust handheld yet, the Palm Tungsten C handheld. Running on an ultra-fast processor, the latest Palm OS and plenty of memory, it handles your complex business files with ease. Need to check your email for an urgent message or quickly browse the web? Don’t want the hassle and the wait of booting up your laptop? The Tungsten C handheld’s built-in Wi-Fi (802.11b) technology lets you access your business and personal networks, se

List Price: $ 150.00

Price: $ 150.00

Sony Clie PEG-SJ22 Handheld

  • Palm OS version 4.1, DragonBall VZ 33 MHz processor, 16 MB RAM
  • High-resolution TFT color display (320 x 320 pixels)
  • USB (HotSync cable) and Infrared interface
  • Lithium-ion rechargeable battery
  • What’s in the box: Clie handheld, USB Hotsync cable, AC adapter, AC cable, Stylus, Protective cover, installation CD-ROM

Sony Clie PEG-SJ22 Battery. This is a 3.7 Volt, 1000 mAh, Li-Ion Battery . Dimensions: 1.68 x 0.78 x 0.29. 100% OEM compatible.The PEG-SJ22 Clié handheld provides everything you need to stay organized and entertained. Compact and lightweight, you can take your Clié handheld wherever you go. The high-resolution color screen shows images in full detail and color. In addition to the 16 MB internal memory, the Memory Stick media expansion slot offers unlimited storage capability for all your fav

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millie1512 Said,
August 29th, 2011 @2:59 pm  
195 of 203 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Review composed and submitted from a tungsten c, May 31, 2003
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millie1512 (London, UK) –
This review is from: PalmOne Tungsten C Handheld (Electronics)

I bought my Palm Tungsten C two days ago and am writing this review on it. Which shows its pluses and its limitations.

Its pluses? I’ve got a wireless network (apple airport) at home and at the office. I’ve been able to launch the web browser on the PDA, log onto amazon using my email and password, find this page and start writing my review.

I’m also typing this on a keyboard (well, kind of!), which is a huge improvement on the old grafitti system, which is of course still included for those who got the hang of it. I’m also able to surf and type on a colour screen that is as good as anything I have ever seen on a PDA.

Checking emails and going onto the internet is extremely straight forward – the only hitch I encountered is down to Apple not palm – you need to select network password equivalent in the airport configuration to get the letters and numbers that make up the key you need to log into an encrypted network.

And though I’ve seen the reviews questioning the wireless range of the tungsten c, I found that I was able to log onto my network at home and collect my emails two rooms and one hallway away from the airport base station. Not as good as my airport enabled ibook, but comparable to the cordless phone I have at home.

The downsides? Other reviewers have already questioned the lack of bluetooth and if I didn’t have wi-fi at home I’d be taking this product back. When you spend this sort of money you really have to be sure you are getting the most out of it.

You also need to be realistic. Yes I’ve been able to connect and access every site I want but as with any PDA the experience is not anywhere near what you get on even the smallest of notebooks. Having to scroll backwards and forwards to read what is on the screen can be a pain in the backside. As is typing in several hundred words, something that I am doing now. Sure it can be done but it will take you twice as long as on your PC, though I suppose it does teach you to be brief!

I’ve not played around with the documents to go feature just yet, but I would think it’s the same there as well. Use it to write or amend short presentations or documents, but don’t write your board report on it.

In summary this is a great product, light years away from the psion and handspring I owned previously. Just be realistic what you are going to be using it for and the limitations of a tiny screen and keyboard.

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Wayne Schulz "mas90 accounting software guru" Said,
August 29th, 2011 @3:31 pm  
82 of 86 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Nice screen – still a v1.0 product, May 9, 2003
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Wayne Schulz “mas90 accounting software guru” (Glastonbury, CT USA) –
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The Tungsten C stands out for me because of 2 things: (1) A nice bright screen and (2) Simple hookup to WIFI (and very good battery life to boot – was surfing about 4 hours last night and only drained half way– my ipaq 5455 would have been retired after an hour).

The WIFI hookup is simple – as easy as click and surf. Sometimes when I turn the unit on and attempt to access the web after not having used the device for a while it seems to hang as if it cannot find a WIFI connection. In those instances I manually search for a signal — however I would definitely like to see it automatically attempt a lockon to the last signal it used.

The things that are puzzling are: (1) Device lacks stereo output so if you want to listen to MP3 it has to be mono (2) Uses a cell phone headset jack versus a standard stereo headset jack (3) Makes an odd crackling/popping sound when you use the stylus on the screen [this HAS been widely reported by other users] that resembles static electicity (4) The keys are NOT backlit (5) The email won’t display HTML (6) On my initial device the case in the lower right corner by the power button was loose, wiggled and applying pressure to it actually started activating some buttons [have seen this reported by other users though does not appear widespread].

I would rate this higher but for $… I think Palm should be able to get these relatively simple issues corrected. You may be able to live with them. Might think they are no big thing. My point is for the kind of cash these companies charge we shouldn’t get something with these types of issues.

Just my .02 – with these types of quality / functionality concerns I hope nobody at Palm is sitting around wondering why future sales are down…

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Anonymous Said,
August 29th, 2011 @4:12 pm  
69 of 72 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Awesome performance, June 18, 2003
By A Customer
This review is from: PalmOne Tungsten C Handheld (Electronics)

I’ve owned several PDAs over the years and had abandoned the Palm platform for Sony Clies – the Clies were faster, more stylish, had more features and fantastic screens. I was intrigued by the features of the Tungsten C and tried one out at a local store and immediately purchased one online. In short, the C is a power user’s dream PDA. My impressions after 3 weeks of use:

Screen: incredible, very bright, robust colors – rivals the Clie NX70V, maybe even a bit brighter

WiFi: immediately connected to my home Airport network – range is about 70-80ft – I have been able to connect effortlessly to T-mobile hotspots in several Starbucks

Speed: nothing like it on any PDA – the C truly flies – the browser speed is next to incredible – much faster than browsing on a PocketPC

Keyboard: I have never liked thumbpads, but the one on the C has the keys spaced so they can be accessed via thumb typing – I rarely need to use the new Graffiti 2

Memory: you will not run out!

Battery: very good, I’m getting 10-15 hours

The mono sound issue doesn’t bother me at all – I have an iPod for mp3 listening – the C is fine for Audible content – the mono/stereo doesn’t make much difference with the spoken word

It would have been nice to have built-in Bluetooth – the only limitation I have found so far.

I would also would have liked to have a travel charger included – it’s a pain to have to carry the cradle around.

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superman2k3 "superman2k3" Said,
August 29th, 2011 @4:44 pm  
155 of 158 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars
Great piece of hardware, June 6, 2003
By A Customer
This review is from: Sony Clie PEG-SJ22 Handheld (Electronics)

I’ve had the SJ-22 for about two weeks now. (It’s probably my fourth or fifth PDA, I don’t even remember at this point.) I normally prefer the old Palm III form factor, but the SJ-22′s smaller size works fine. It’s still a pretty “normal” thickness, so it’s comfortable to hold even despite it’s diminutive appearance. It feels very solid and well built too, and actually feels better than any metal PDA I’ve used (including Sony’s high-end PDAs).

The buttons and controls on it are well designed (even the odd choice of an up/down rocker that’s harder to press up than down works fine). The screen’s excellent, for any price point really, let alone the price Sony’s charging for this thing. It’s significantly better than Palm’s Tungsten T or M515, though maybe not quite as good as the Zire 71 or Sony’s NX line. When inserted, Memory Sticks are flush with the casing, so they can be left in the unit all the time. I would have liked a slightly easier to press power button-but that’s a minor complaint. Even the included leather flip cover does its job better than I expected. It also includes Sony’s standard metal stylus. It’s a bit too thin, as all Sony stylus’ are, but I appreciate that it’s metal. Many significantly more expensive PDAs include plastic stylus, which really don’t feel as good to use. I don’t find the job dial and back button particularly useful, but they’re well designed, unlike the PocketPC PDAs that include them (the jog dial actually rotates completely around, it doesn’t just tilt up and down).

The SJ-22 also uses Graffiti. REAL Graffiti, not “Graffiti 2/JOT” that the PalmOS 5.2 devices are using. For me that’s a big deal, as I can’t stand JOT (to the point where I may never buy a PDA that only uses it).

While it has “only” the same 33-mhz Dragonball processor that’s been in PalmOS PDAs for years, it actually feels and benchmarks faster than any other 33-mhz Palm I’ve used…meaning it’s very fast. For the heck of it, I tried playing some movie trailers I created in the Kinoma video format, and was surprised to find that the SJ-22 actually plays 30fps full screen video extremely well (looks almost identical to the faster ARM based PDAs). If this had more advanced sound instead of the standard old PalmOS speaker, it would actually be very good at multimedia (without more advanced sound, video is more of a curiosity than anything else). Obviously the included 16MB goes far on a PalmOS device, especially when many programs and documents can be stuck on a memory stick. Unsurprisingly (since it’s a Palm), I haven’t had a single crash or any strange behavior since I’ve started using it. I’m sure there’s SOME weird piece of software out there that doesn’t agree with it, but the dozens of programs I’ve been using for years work great.

One small complaint is that the SJ-22 doesn’t seem to do that great of a job displaying photos from a memory stick taken from a Sony digital camera. It seems to `cheat’ when displaying them and cut out a lot of detail-something Sony’s higher-end NX line doesn’t do. Importing pictures from a computer to the SJ-22 using Sony’s Picture Gear software DOES use the screen to its full potential (which is really quite amazing looking), but it would have been nice to get the same quality when viewing pictures directly out of a Sony camera, as the SJ-22 has a larger screen than most cameras.

Battery life seems to be excellent. I leave my PDAs plugged in to my computer while at work, so I rarely go more than a day or two before recharging. That said, even with fairly heavy use I don’t think I’ve seen the battery indicator drop below 100%. A Tungsten T I tried seemed to blow through the battery when just browsing through a To-Do list for a few minutes. The battery compartment is user accesable. I don’t think Sony has any official replacement for the battery (the compartment was designed to be opened so that the battery can be recycled), but it may be possible to use a third party battery when it dies in a few years.

The only `issue’ with the SJ-22 is that, as has been mentioned by others, Sony cut corners with what comes packaged with it. No cradle (a $30 extra), although the included cable works fine, so it’s not a big loss (it just means one has to manually click “hotsync” from the hotsync app rather than hitting a button on the cradle). It also lacks software to sync with Mac OS, or Outlook, and lacks an Office type program (though all are available separately if desired). I don’t feel remotely cheated though-the SJ-22 is a great piece of hardware, and is worth the price just for the hardware even without many included extras.

One last note-I was hesitant to buy the SJ-22 because for some reason every store display model I tried seemed to have inaccurate Graffiti. Letters just seem to come out semi-randomly for me. So far, after two weeks of use I’ve had no problems at all with my unit. It might just be that the graffiti area is a bit…

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Anonymous Said,
August 29th, 2011 @5:03 pm  
30 of 30 people found the following review helpful:
3.0 out of 5 stars
Basic model not for first time Palm users, November 2, 2003
By A Customer
This review is from: Sony Clie PEG-SJ22 Handheld (Electronics)

This is a great little unit that provides all the basics of a PDA. You really can’t beat it for the price and value. However, if you are looking for something beyond basic schedule, contact, and to-do list management, look elsewhere. It does not have wi-fi, and other bells and whistles require the purchase of additional hardware. (MP3 playback, for example)

However, you do get what you pay for. The unit does not come with a hard copy of the basic instruction manual, which is available only in PDF format. It also does NOT come with Intellisync software, which is necessary to sync to Outlook. There have been conflicting comments about that posted to this review site, and I wish to clarify as a recent purchaser (Oct 2003) of this product what the situation is. ONLY purchasers who bought certain units within a serial number range were eligible to download the Intellisync software. Sony only did this because references to Intellisync were made during the software install, and when users discovered that the CD did not contain it, Sony made it available for download. This snafu was corrected in units shipped after a certain date. So if you bought one recently (like I did) you were not eligible for Intellisync. Thus, if you are an Outlook user like I am, you will have to shell out the 50-70 bucks extra to buy software such as Intellisync or PocketMirror. If this is important to you, you should consider that in the overall cost of the unit.

As an experienced PDA user, I didn’t really need printed or “Advanced” instructions (by the way, you need to pay for “advanced” instructions). However, I could see that this situation could be very frustrating for a first-time user of a PDA. Given the low price point of this model, it is obvious where Sony decided to cut costs. All of this is really fine, however, if the lack of printed instructions and Intellisync doesn’t bother you. For the money and basic functionality it provides, it is a fine unit.

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Anonymous Said,
August 29th, 2011 @5:42 pm  
58 of 64 people found the following review helpful:
4.0 out of 5 stars
Good PDA but not worth buying now., August 5, 2003
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superman2k3 “superman2k3″ (On a sunny beach!) –
This review is from: Sony Clie PEG-SJ22 Handheld (Electronics)

The major pro’s are,
1. Average price and still good build quality.
2. Looks good, small size, light weight and a very nice flip cover included.
3. Jog dial, 15MB RAM and memory stick expansion slot.
4. HiRes color display and very good backlight.
5. 7 hrs of battery life on a single charge with backlight on all the time.
6. Runs Palm OS 4 which has zillion free apps available and is very easy to use unlike Windows based PDA’s.

Con’s,
1. The color LCD isn’t put to much use in Palm OS 4.
2. No other fun stuff like mp3.
3. Uses a Lithium Ion battery and Sony sells no replacements for it. Might be an issue in 18 months time.
4. No documents-to-go like in previous SJ’s.
5. Soon to be discontinued and replaced by a newer model by Sony.

In short if you can wait for till Sept/Oct a lot many new PDA’s should come out with Palm OS 5 and better features at same price point. SJ20 is better option since its below hundred after rebate now and there’s harldy any difference between SJ20 & SJ22.

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